• March 18, 2016

Pictures of Crime and Punishment Around the World

Becky Harlan

What is it like to be a prisoner in Uganda? How does that compare to being incarcerated in the United States? What about France? Colombia?

How humans handle crime, and how we dole out punishment, is the question that gnaws at Jan Banning. Before he was a photographer, he was a student of history—less interested in spectacle and more interested in the slow, structural development of systems. Before delving into the world of criminal justice, he spent years photographing bureaucrats around the world, comparing civil servants on five different continents. After he was finished examining the executive branch, he decided to take on the judiciary, which imposes criminal sentences.

Picture of two men sunbathing in a prison courtyard in France
France—Centre Penitentiaire de Lille-Annoeullin is a prison with different security levels. In the back of the courtyard lies J.M., member of the Corsican gang Sea Breeze. He had already spent 14 years in prison before being sentenced to 15 years for murder in 2007.

Legal paperwork and court hearings usually look pretty boring, and getting a camera inside a prison is notoriously difficult. So Banning’s first order of business was to determine if he could actually get enough access to create compelling photographs in a variety of countries.

Picture of an occupied courtroom in Uganda
Uganda—Kampala High Court is in session, presided over by Judge Benjamin Kabiito.

Working with the Max Planck Institute for Foreign and International Criminal Law in Freiburg, Germany, Banning decided to photograph in Uganda, France, the United States, and Colombia—a mixture of Western and non-Western countries that operate under civil law, common law, or derivatives of those systems. (He attempted to work in countries under sharia law and communism but was not able to gain access to his choices of Saudi Arabia or China.)

Picture of a television and telephones attached to a gray cinderblock wall next to a metal table in Putnam County jail in Eatonton, Georgia
United States—Putnam County Jail in Eatonton, Georgia, was constructed in 1991.

He had to wait two years for access to two prisons in France. (He was eventually allowed into two more). Colombia and the U.S. presented him with similar hoops to jump through. In Uganda, he was quickly allowed into 10 prisons, far more than in any other country.

His goal wasn’t to create some sort of hierarchy between systems, and his visual comparisons aren’t quantifiable, but some of his initial expectations were overthrown. For example, “in all 10 prisons [in Uganda], the people who accompanied me, the warden [or the] assistant warden, were very nice to the people, treating them as human beings, talking to the prisoners, patting them on the back or on the head. They didn’t bother much about what I was doing,” Banning says. “I don’t want to romanticize this—I know there is corruption. It’s not like, ‘Yeah, wow, let’s all go to Uganda and spend some time in the prison there,’ but this really struck me.”

Picture of a crowded prison courtyard in Uganda, with some men sitting before smoking cooking vessels
Uganda—Kigo Prison, a high-security facility, accommodates 1,175 prisoners, who are allowed to cook extra food in the courtyard if their families provide it.

Likewise, he wasn’t trying to make U.S. prisons look bleak, “but at some point it becomes unavoidable. That’s how the U.S. prisons look,” he says. Comparatively, says Banning, “The prisons in Colombia are more corrupt, but there are far fewer people in them.” What he observed in the U.S. frustrated him, though he does acknowledge that he saw a desire for reform. “People on both sides of the political spectrum are convinced that the U.S. can’t go on like this. On one side of the spectrum for humanitarian reasons, on the other for financial reasons. It’s not affordable anymore.”

Picture of men sitting on the ground against a cement wall and beneath towels hanging on a line
Colombia—Colonia Agricola in Acacías. Built in 1906, it has 364 employees and is a prison for some 1,250 men, mainly small-scale drug traffickers (convicted to less than five years) and former guerillas and paramilitary (convicted for homicide, sex crimes, robbery, etc.), in the last phase of their prison stay.

His rational desire to compare methods across borders became less sterile the more he read and explored. “The more time I spent on it, the stronger the emotional aspect became,” he says. “I was often enraged by what I was reading and seeing.”
Banning isn’t an activist, and he doesn’t claim to have the solutions. He just hopes that his photos make people think and spark conversation.

Colombia—Clerks at Cartagena’s Juzgado 2 Penal del Circuito. Uganda—Archive of the Chief Magistrate’s Court at Buganda Road, Kampala. United States—Putnam County, Georgia. Sheriff Howard Sills, chair of Georgia's Sheriffs' Association.
The administrative side of justice in Colombia, Uganda, and the United States.

“I tried to avoid the classical kinds of symbolic photographs that we see all too often—hands reaching through bars. That’s not interesting. That does not contribute anything to our knowledge.” He shows prisoners sunbathing in a courtyard as well as prisoners who are uniformed and confined in a stark structure. “By juxtaposing these kinds of photographs I hope to confuse people. I think confusion leads to thinking,” he says. “I do not want to give people a one-dimensional view. Yes, clearly prison is crappy, but there’s more to say about it than that it’s crappy.”

Picture of a heavily tattooed prisoner in his cell in the Maison d’arrêt de Bois-d’Arcy, France
France—A prisoner sits in his cell in the Maison d’arrêt de Bois-d’Arcy.

In the foreword to Banning’s recent photo book, Law and Order, which resulted from this project, Ulrich Sieber draws an unexpected parallel between law and the tool Banning used to examine it—art.

“Legal science … generally strives more strongly for truth, objectivity, and correct results than do most forms of art, as art tends not to be driven by binaries such as correct or incorrect. In reality, however, legal science and the judicial system are also open to subjectivity and–as is nearly everything in life–to misinterpretation and even to manipulation,” Dr. Sieber writes.

Picture of male inmates sitting on benches and standing outside prison cells
United States—Smith State Prison, a close security level prison with 1,354 inmates near Glennville, Georgia. Some inmates work without pay in Georgia Correctional Industries.

Banning knows that in some cases keeping people who commit crimes out of society is unavoidable, but he hopes more than anything that this work inspires people to take a step back and reconsider how we do that. “It’s important that we give it more thought,” he says. “Under the wrong circumstances, probably most of us could commit a crime. So let’s treat these people as we would want to be treated. Is retribution our first priority, or do we prioritize correction and bringing down reoffenders? Revenge or results?”

See more of Jan Banning’s work on his website.

There are 22 Comments. Add Yours.

  1. David
    April 1, 2016

    I found all this conversation very fascinating and difficult to address, as both sides, including Jacqui, have valid arguments. As for Sharia law, the punishments are so harsh, from death to the removal of your fingers, it does curtail Crime considerably. Because our Society is founded on Christian principles, we believe in second chances. I do however believe that some people totally lack human compassion and the ability to respect others. Those people guilty of rape, murder and violent crimes, should NOT be given a second chance. Unfortunately, however, because of the theatrical (elected prosecutors) displays of our Courts, we have a need to withhold Summary Execution.
    I do agree with Rita, “Prisons aren’t responsible for recidivism, the individuals committing the crimes are.”
    There is no single answer to the problem, but there must be more than simply confining people. First, It should be mandatory that all person’s meet educational standards while confined. Knowledge is Freedom in many ways, it unlocks the corridors of ignorance and fills those spaces with reason and rational thought. Second, remove all the perks of TV, commissary and personal clothing. These things must be earned, not granted. Third, they must work and be given some skill that can be utilized later. Self respect can have a major impact on the course of one’s life. The most dangerous person is one that has nothing to lose in their view.
    No doubt, in some cases, based on scientific fact and clear and compelling evidence, there are those that should be “put down’ as stated above. There are those who will just never assimilate into society and are a threat to everyone. I am also for not having ANY Elected Positions in our Justice System, as it will be impossible for Justice to ever be Blind and Unbiased. That alone would be a great start to Reforming.

  2. Jan Banning
    March 23, 2016

    Rita Roint: “Prisons aren’t responsible for recidivism, the individuals committing the crimes are.” Once you’ve concluded that, what is your proposal? Do you want to do something about recidivism, about the enormous cost of locking up people time and again? Maybe the death penalty for shop lifters or people who speed on the highway? Moral judgements are easy to make but do not necessarily contribute to a better society.

  3. Rita Roint
    March 22, 2016

    Prisons aren’t responsible for recidivism, the individuals committing the crimes are. Stop with the rhetoric and excuses. Individual responsibility, there’s a new concept.

  4. Jan Banning
    March 21, 2016

    Let me not waste my time on people who so desperately cling on to their own ignorance.

    First of all: let’s not act as if we’re all under some terrible threat! Crime rates (and surely violent crime rates) in many countries including the US have been going down for a few decades. So the focus on safety and security is exaggerated.

    As for Trevors: “Did anyone know that countries under Sharia law have significantly low crime rates than others..?” International comparison of crime rates is very problematic: they depend on what is defined as a crime by law, on what is registered by police and what percentage of offenders is arrested (and convicted) etc.
    As for the Sharia, what countries are you referring to? The only countries that truly use Sharia in their criminal justice system are Iran and Saudi Arabia. The others mainly use it in name.

    You seem to imply that there’s a causal relationship between strict Sharia laws and low crime rates. Sharia can be very harsh in cases of murder and other violent crimes. But those are only a tiny percentage of the total number of crimes.
    And to give you an opposite example: We (in the Netherlands) are very “soft on crime”, and our crime rates are lower than those of the US. So what does all this prove?

    If you are truly interested, check out the notes (yes, Jacqui, “extensive research” instead of unfounded opinions) of my Law&Order book. You don’t even have to buy it, as the list is on internet: http://www.janbanning.com/books/law-order/notes/
    Especially Tapio Lappi-Seppälä, “Controlling Prisoner Rates: Experiences From Finland,” who concludes that no relationship can be proven between stricter sentencing and lower crime rates.
    Don’t believe populist politicians crying wolf about safety!

  5. Silas S
    March 21, 2016

    Much of the money spent is to protect the majority from further threat, and it’s not just about wasting taxpayer’s money.

    So the question is how eager is the law of a country to adequately compensate the victim apart from protecting the majority?

  6. Jacqui
    March 20, 2016

    Andrew C.
    I do not wish violence on you!
    When did I say that??!!
    I can see now by your last comments…”KKK, McCarthyism, oppression…” that you and I are not on the same page and never will be.
    Don’t waste your time commenting to me anymore.

  7. Silas.S
    March 20, 2016

    It’s a pity that so-called creativity at times is so misleading and not that trustworthy.

    • Jacqui
      March 20, 2016

      I think it’s a pity that just about nothing is trustworthy.

  8. Andrew C
    March 20, 2016

    You’re right, we’re both entitled to our opinions. The only difference is mine are based on facts and a comprehensive understanding of history. Your opinions are based on emotions and a “feeling” you have about how things are based on personal experience instead of the bigger shared experience.
    You are getting tired of this conversation because you don’t use any evidence to back up your claims, so we can’t even have a conversation about the facts, just opposing “feelings.” Things were just as bad then for a large portion of our citizenry, you just discount their experiences because they don’t look like you and you didn’t hear about it as frequently due to the nature of global/national news.

    Those 40’s and 50’s you talk about so fondly, I have a few thoughts about those “good ole days”. Plessy V. Ferguson, Racial Segregation, KKK, McCarthyism and oppression.

    You wish violence upon me or my family so I will feel like you do? That makes no sense. We have been affected by the violence you hate so much, but instead of choosing to hold onto hate and let it eat us up, we choose to forgive and move on with our lives. Hate is like a rocking chair, you can rock all day and go no where with it…

  9. Trevors
    March 20, 2016

    Did anyone know that countries under Sharia law have significantly low crime rates than others..?

  10. Andrew C
    March 19, 2016

    You fail to see the bigger picture I am talking about because you are only seeing what is in front of your face everyday on the news and getting stuck in that false perception that things are so much worse than they used to be.

    You understand that we are living in an era of unprecedented news coverage that allows you to see more of the hateful things humans have been doing to each other for centuries don’t you? There have always been perverts, pedophiles, and murders. We just hear about it more often because we are so globally connected and local news stations fixate on the negative aspects of human life that warp the perception of violence for us all. Some people see it like you do and that the world is going to end tomorrow if we don’t kill all of these criminals and others just tune it out and become desensitized to the facts behind overall crime rates and fail to have an opinion about it. Truth is crime rates have dropped since the 70’s 80’s and 90’s. See FBI stats on violent crimes if you don’t believe me…

    I agree that rapists, murderers, child molesters and violent people need to be locked up and taken away from society, but not that all of them should be taken out back and shot. I don’t want to slap their wrist or give them a pat on the head, but I do want to treat them humanely and feel we as a society should be above the basic human emotions of revenge and an “eye for an eye” mentality. Deep down inside everyone feels that way, but there are also many people that have evolved past basic instinct, following a different path of “turning the other cheek” to be better than the criminals you prosecute.

    As for the teacher stuff. I am a teacher who works with 98% free and reduced lunch children at an inner city school and I deal with a lot of what you talked about below. The difference is that I know they are children who can change, other people see them as lost causes because a few of them will turn out to be the “scum of the earth” you talk about. My kids are ridiculously hard to reach due to the circumstances they live in and the lack of opportunity for their families. Most of their families are highly uneducated due to inequalities reaching back to Plessy v. Ferguson. It’s not as simple to say “you have the opportunity now, go and take it” when it’s been engrained in their family psyche that an education has done nothing to help them achieve a higher station in life. Many times due to diminishing opportunities to live the blue collar lifestyle, people are forced into minimum wage jobs that require them to be on welfare. The corporations for which they work use the government to subsidize their salaries so the shareholders can be rewarded and the tax payers can be burdened. The blue collar jobs in America are disappearing these days, and income inequality is widening. Our country was strongest when more people had money to invest in the economy, not less. In the 60’s 70’s and 80’s, when we had large union membership, people and their families were taken care of by the businesses they work for with health care and a pension. Now through automation, those jobs are disappearing and workers are being devalued. Yes before you say it, unions do have some problems, but I’d much rather have them then think about working conditions before their formation.

    When you are talking about these women being proud to walk around with big bellies, I just don’t see it that way. You’re simply perpetuating the “welfare queen” stereotype that was propagated by the Reagan administration to create division between races and make the white middle working class feel like African American people were to blame for their worsening conditions, to divert attention away from the fact that more white people were on welfare in the U.S. It’s the same thing that is done throughout our country today with illegal immigrants, Muslims, African Americans. Just think about it, Obama is all three of those to many people instead of the POTUS.

    The perception of race needs to change in the country and people need to feel comfortable talking to each other and actually understanding “other” American’s experiences. Speaking about police getting shot and killed and the black lives matter movement. I’m sure there are many people who feel that “all lives matter” would be better, but no one is implying that all lives don’t matter, just that black lives matter too. If all of these people are angry, there must be some reason. Maybe the fact that they live in neighborhoods with higher crime rates, so they are policed more and harassed more than a neighborhood you or I grew up in has something to do with it. Let me be clear: I don’t advocate violence against police, but I do feel that they can’t always be perfect either when shooting an assailant, and should be held accountable for that. I think the targeting of police is a response to injustices and people in some communities losing faith in the integrity of their police force due to experience. Just look at the case in Suffolk county recently where their police chief was charged in an extreme case of abuse of power. I think that this does happen and it’s not the majority, but police, just like unions in many people’s opinions, need to quit defending the “bad ones” who do abuse their positions and hold them accountable. I just feel like basic logic would understand that police who patrol an area of high poverty without being a part of the community would eventually come to see the residents they police as the enemy, due to the majority of their interactions being extremely negative. After awhile that would make anyone policing from outside the community learn to see everyone in the community as an enemy who could be out to get them. This creates bias where cops treat people that way whether they were guilty of a crime or not, building anger. I have seen this first hand with some of my “good children.” Again, I don’t think anyone should target police, but I do think the fact that they are being targeting deserves more thought than simply blaming people for their actions without considering the force behind them.

    • Jacqui
      March 19, 2016

      Andrew: You have a right to your opinions, I have a right to mine.
      Simply put…I do not agree with you.
      I believe in meeting violence with violence, an eye for an eye.

      You exterminate a colony of termites, they no longer eat your house. You kill the wasp, it can no longer sting you.

      The news that is right in front of me?
      Uuuh yes, it’s in front of me, reported every day, it’s happening and needs to be stopped.

      I’m not an idiot. I do realize that there have been criminals since time began…but not as many as there are today.
      70’s, 80’s, 90’s….old news. I grew up in the late 40’s, 50’s. We did not see the type of crime that we see now and I’m not talking about because it was not all reported as it is now.

      People were not attacked, shot, stabbed on a daily basis as they are now.
      Home invasions were unheard of, and I didn’t live in a high class neighborhood.

      The streets in my city have changed drastically. Very few good neighborhoods left.
      Crime around every corner.
      It’s this way in just about every city and state in our country.

      You know…I’m tired of going through all of this. I’ve said it before and I’ll say again….merely locking people up will never solve the problems we have with violent people. They are dangerous on the outside and dangerous in prison. It’s like locking up a crazed animal in a cage and making sure you stay beyond arm’s length.
      They are useless and need to be put down, eliminate all further problems.

      Keep up with your bleeding heart attitude..maybe one of these days, you’ll be a victim or someone in your family or a good friend.
      If you still feel so charitable towards the scum of the earth after that….seek professional help.

  11. Jacqui
    March 19, 2016

    Hey, to all Bleeding Hearts:
    I spend a good deal of the time reading news articles every day…just read another disgusting one.
    “New York Man Charged With Sexually Abusing Boys….and A Dog”
    I suppose most of you that think harsh punishment is cruel and inhumane….would merely give this sick bast**d a slap on the wrist and a good talking to….Right?????
    Inhumane prison would be just tooooooo terrible for him. Yeh right.

  12. Jacqui
    March 19, 2016

    I will try to address each “person” who has left a rather nasty comment about my comments.

    No, I am not here to fight.
    I have opinions. I am brutally honest. I have the right to express my opinions.

    I do not filter my conversations.
    I rarely say things that people want to hear. I say what I think, I speak of reality. And no, I am not an ignorant person, I have had a good education, many decades of life experience.

    The bottom line regarding prisons in the United States, IF YOU DON’T WANT TO WIND UP IN PRISON, DO NOT COMMIT A CRIME!!
    Sounds pretty simple to me.
    I’ve never committed a crime…how about you??

    Prisons are for punishment, they are not meant to be country clubs!
    Ask the guards and wardens how they feel about what they have to deal with every day.

    As far as death row inmates…
    I watch every crime documentary that comes out.
    The last one, a man sentenced for murder of a young girl said with a smile on his face… ” a lot can happen in 10 years..” meaning, court appointed lawyers…paid for by the tax payers…will file appeals, bleeding heart organizations will demonstrate, donate money, etc…
    and in the mean time, this guy will eat and sleep for free and most likely some stupid, insecure,mentally challenged woman will fall in love with that guy and want a relationship with him!

    Speak to a father who’s daughter has been kidnapped, raped and murdered…see how he feels about the “poor misguided soul” who did this horrific crime.
    Speak to a mother who’s 9 month old baby was taken,raped and murdered.

    Yes, I do agree that it’s a tragedy when an innocent person is incarcerated and/or executed.
    But, we are living in a different time now. It’s no longer the 70’s or 80’s or even the 90’s. Now, exact matches can be made to fingerprints and DNA.
    Mistakes should no longer be happening.

    Severe punishment will indeed stop people from committing more crimes!
    Make examples.
    Do away with the murderers and the rapists and the child kidnappers and molesters, do not let them languish in prison, they will no longer be here to repeat their crimes. Do the same to each who follow in the wrong footsteps. Rid the earth. They do not deserve a pat on the head and a sermon.

    You’re dam* right I’m angry.
    I grew up in a time where you could walk down the street and not have to worry about drive-by shootings.
    We didn’t feel the need to lock our doors during the day and bar our windows. I don’t ever remember an incident of a home invasion in the city I grew up in…and still live in. They are commonplace now.

    Police officers are being attacked and ambushed. When I was a kid, we had respect for police officers.
    There is a shooting and/or stabbing reported every day on the news.

    Our neighborhoods were quiet, not over-crowded, overwhelmed.
    Schools were a place for learning, teachers were respected.
    Now…teachers are spit on, cursed at, threatened, beaten and even murdered. But, that’s okay…right??

    I don’t remember ever knowing anyone who was on welfare. We didn’t always have a lot but we made-do with what we had and were happy to do so. We didn’t feel the world owed us a living.
    People worked at whatever job they could find,worked hard and didn’t expect hand-outs.
    Now…young women feel proud to walk around with big bellies and feel the state welfare system owes them a living….so they keep having illegitimate children, getting free health care, free cell phones, free housing and food stamps.

    I spend an hour or more every morning reading the news…
    Thousands of children every year, taken, used for sex slaves.
    Man throws 5 year old daughter off of a bridge.
    Woman throws newborn baby out of 8th floor window of NYC apartment building.
    Mother sets child on fire.
    It goes on and on and on and on. It never stops.
    There is never even one day when there is not a news item of a terrible crime.
    Anyone who feels sorry for people who are violent and cruel definitely needs some serious psychological help.

  13. Sherral
    March 19, 2016

    I have a nephew in a Federal Prison (10 year sentence) so I have had what I like to call “an unfortunate education” in this area. The picture of the Smith State Prison are similar to the institution my nephew is in…bleak and bare. There is a need to study these systems to reduce the amount of recidivism. These photos are an excellent representation of how our prison system compares to others worldwide. I would like to know which country has the lowest recidivism rate and how their prison systems are run.

  14. Andrew C
    March 19, 2016

    I feel as if you came here for a fight but in the interest of starting a productive conversation about the criminal justice system I’d like to address some of your opinions I find uninformed and not well thought out from a logical standpoint.
    1. “Violent criminals should be disposed of, period.” … “Harsher laws, bring back hanging, the death penalty IS the death penalty…carry it out within 10 days, NOT 10 years!!!!!!!!!!”
    The DPIC has found more than 150 people since 1970 who were sentenced to death and were innocent. This is just a drop in the bucket over the history of the death penalty in our country considering inequalities in policing and racism didn’t end with the civil war. Those individuals were acquitted using DNA evidence. What if they were killed in 10 days, would that be just? If you are such an advocate against violent crime, how is it different if the state or country commits the violent act of murder? What can be more unjust than an innocent man being sentenced to death for a crime he did not commit and be killed?
    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocence-list-those-freed-death-row Here’s the website, don’t let the facts get in the way of your opinion….
    2. “There ARE people who cannot be rehabilitated and don’t want to be.
    Why should tax payers have to foot the bills for this scum?
    Again…. “Cases without the death penalty cost $740,000, while cases where the death penalty is sought cost $1.26 million. Maintaining each death row prisoner costs taxpayers $90,000 more per year than a prisoner in general population.”
    – Same website, all information you can easily find with a google search to better inform your opinion. Also if the state kills innocent men or tries to on a regular basis, how is that any more just than the murderer you’re ready to sentence to death.
    3. The whole part about “poor people who do not know any better breeding like roaches.” You’re right, poor UNEDUCATED people produce more offspring than wealthier EDUCATED people. Why not use schools in America as an extension of the home and allow teachers to have conversations with kids about safe sex instead of only abstinence. Kids will be kids and people will have sex and get pregnant, it’s part of being human. Informed and educated people can make the decision to seek contraceptives IF they’re available. You’re making the case for improving education to me, not condemning those without access to it.

    It is always easy to blame the people in the darkness without considering who turned off the lights. We need people to quit only seeing the effects of poverty, a lack of education, and institutionalized inequality and actually try to fix the root of the problems. I don’t have all the answers but am open to having a conversation about them.

  15. Becky
    March 19, 2016

    So Jacqui, you believe murder is okay?

  16. IuqcuaJ
    March 18, 2016

    Ppl like jacqui are the clear proof there are some crazy ignorant around and the problem is all there. Living in a clear illusion. Get an education before trying to write an opinion.

  17. Pyagotha
    March 18, 2016

    Jacqui you sound extremely angry. You should be careful not to let your anger get the upper hand or you could find yourself in one of those tough prison’s you so advocate!

  18. Jan Banning
    March 18, 2016

    “There ARE people who cannot be rehabilitated and don’t want to be. Why should tax payers have to foot the bills for this scum?” And “Until there are harsher laws, no more bleeding hearts…” Yep, tough talk – but not very informed. Extensive research shows that being tough on crime has no influence whatsoever on crime rates. Severe penalties do not stop people from committing crimes. Comparisons between different countries show that poverty and an uneven distribution of wealth does have an influence – and not a positive one! Maybe time to rethink that distribution in the US? And meanwhile, use our heads and try other things to reduce recidivism? Inhumane treatment in prisons is counterproductive.

    • Jacqui
      March 18, 2016

      Ahhhh yes, another bleeding heart, reciting “extensive research” and blah, blah, blah, blah.
      As I said, VIOLENT criminals should be disposed of, period.
      If they are no longer here, they cannot cause any further problem, no recidivism.
      As far as poverty goes…people create poverty.
      There would be much less poverty, less need for housing, food, schools and welfare aid if stupid people would try to realize….If you can barely support yourself, HOW do you expect to support a child or multiple children??!!!!
      Too many children are brought into life to starve to death or live in filthy disgusting surroundings. Who’s fault is that? The people who are ignorant and keep bringing these children into the world.
      When and if those children get to be teenagers and beyond, that’s their excuse for committing robberies, assaults…they never had anything, nobody ever cared and so on.
      Harsher laws, bring back hanging, the death penalty IS the death penalty…carry it out within 10 days, NOT 10 years!!!!!!!!!!

  19. Jacqui
    March 18, 2016

    Violent criminals should be disposed off, period.
    Our prisons in the United States are bursting at the seams, there are always new inmates being added to the mix.
    There ARE people who cannot be rehabilitated and don’t want to be.
    Why should tax payers have to foot the bills for this scum?
    Things will NEVER change as long as the population keeps growing…and it does..because people do not know any better, they breed like roaches.
    I have no sympathy for rapists, murderers, child molesters, violent, cruel people.
    Until there are harsher laws, no more bleeding hearts…Crime lives on and so do the prisons.

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